My Ancestors NEVER owned any slaves.

w-_va-_coal_mine_1908Anthony Turoczy,   Manassas, VA.   My Great-grandparents came to America in 1904 from Hungary. They worked in the mines during the day and went to school at night to learn how to speak, read and write English. Don’t blame others for your bad choices; work hard and make something of yourself.

Keep the conversation going - comment and discuss with your thoughts

  • Lesta

    Mine owned slaves but so what? The past and slavery are over and now African-Americans must move forward. Present guilt will not help resolve the racial issues we face today.

  • Idamis

    I think we shouldn’t think that everybody from a certain race is bad. Every “race” has good and bad people but it isn’t somebody’s fault. Maybe people that come from bad situations has less opportunities but now the world have changed and it feels more like a sense of equality for everybody. In this card, it looks like this person sees African-Americans as people that isn’t making any effort to success in their lives, when is not like that.

  • Lovelace

    I think that people should put slavery behind us since its done and its not happening again.

  • Kerby Hendricks

    None of the Black people I know have much to say about slavery. It’s not like we sit around and bring it up in general conversation. Do I feel like I’m owed something because of it? No. I think socioeconomic status makes a huge difference in how people might perceive the effects of slavery on ones own personal experience. If you are poor, then Slavery might seem very relevant to your current circumstances. Middle class and above? We don’t spend much time thinking about it…

  • Truth will set you free

    I am black and my white ancestors owned slaves. So what? I don’t feel guilty and a don’t feel like blaming others. I think people are more worried about racism. When I see white people, I see people. I never assume that I know anyone’s past. Please do not assume that all black people are blaming you. just like your ancestors never owned slaves, Many black people’s ancestors were never connected to slavery. They have no interest in blaming anyone for anything. treat people the way that you would have them treat you.

  • Hadiya

    Great! But it also does help that your ancestors probably looked like the dominant group here, and thus no aspersions about their character were placed on them.

    • olblue9

      You have got to be joking! Many a poor white southerner, in a group of wealthy northerners has felt like their ni$$er. Most wealthy people that I have known place social status before race. If you are poor of any race, you are not given the same opportunities as wealthy of any race. It’s always been the “golden rule”.

      • Hadiya

        That is true, but it’s worse to be a minority poor person than a non-minority poor person.

        • olblue9

          Growing up when I did, poor was poor. If you have limited or no opportunities, it sucks to be poor of any color. A lot of my “poor black” friends that I grew up with, were able to get better job offers that I, just because of their color.

          • Hadiya

            I don’t know anything about you, so this is curiosity. Are you sure that their being black led them to getting better job offers?

          • olblue9

            “Back in the day”, I wish I had a nickel for every time that a government secretary told me that they needed so many minority’s. White applications would not be accepted until more minorities were found to fill the existing job postings. This created a lot of unemployed poor white people who were not allowed to apply for employment at government and large corporations. By the way, I am happy for them. Just wish I could have been as lucky.

          • Hadiya

            So essentially affirmative action.
            I didn’t think you were mad or anything.

          • olblue9

            Hey, we are all only human. This was all a long time ago, before Ipod’s, wireless, etc. At one time AA was accepted as a way of life. To help the government and corporations to diversify their workforces. But, a price had to be paid. These jobs could not be created without someone losing a job. Like it or not, white people could not apply for these jobs which a minority had to fill. A modern day, grown-up version of musical chairs. Slavery is real, Jim Crow was real, and AA became the latest form of discrimination. Right or wrong, like it or not, if color limitations are placed on hiring, someone is going to end up without the job. I never applied for a job that a minority was not allowed to apply for. But, I was told that I could not apply for a job because of my “white” skin… many times. Plain and simple. No use being mad, just stating a fact.

          • Guest

            Your logical is off and you are wrong. Affirmative Action benefits White women the most not Black Americans. Don’t blame my people for being poor, White trash

          • George Whitefield

            Wrong,it benefit black women more..Have a dear friend that can testified to that as well as my father and his friends that also worked for the government.

          • George Whitefield

            Blacks are the only racial or ethnic group for whom women represent a larger share of the employed than do men – more than half (53.8 percent) of employed Blacks in 2011 were women, compared to 46.0 percent among employed Whites.

          • George Whitefield

            Table 1: Unemployment, employment, and earnings characteristics by race and Hispanic ethnicity1, 2011 annual averagesCharacteristics of the employedBlacksWhitesHispanics% Employed (employment -population ratio among those 16 and older)51.759.458.9% Usually working part time18.019.918.9% Women (age 16 and older)53.846.040.6% College graduates (age 25 and older)26.536.816.7% Working in the private sector (wage and salary workers)76.978.583.7% Working in the public sector19.314.210.4% Self-employed (unincorporated)23.87.25.8Usual Median Weekly Earnings Total$615$775$549Men$653$856$571Women$595$703$518Characteristics of the Unemployed Unemployment rate15.87.911.5% Women (age 16 and older)46.943.041.9Median duration of unemployment in weeks27.019.718.5% Long-term unemployed (27 weeks or more)49.541.739.9Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), Current Population Survey
            1Persons whose ethnicity is identified as Hispanic or Latino may be of any race. Those identified as white or black includes those Hispanics who selected white or black when queried about their race.
            2Self-employed refer to self-employed workers whose businesses are unincorporated.

            Back to Top

          • George Whitefield

            Race / EthnicityNumberPercentage of
            U.S. populationAmericans308,745,538100.0 %Non-Hispanic White196,817,55263.7 %Non-Hispanic Black or African American37,685,84812.2 %Non-Hispanic Asian14,465,1244.7 %Non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native2,247,0980.7 %Non-Hispanic Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander481,5760.2 %Non-Hispanic some other race604,2650.2 %Non-Hispanic two or more races5,966,4811.9 %Hispanic or Latino50,477,59416.4 %Total308,745,538100.0%European American223,553,26572.4 %African Americans38,929,31912.6 %Asian American14,674,2524.8 %Native Americans or Alaska Native2,932,2480.9 %Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander540,0130.2 %Some other race19,107,3686.2 %Two or more races9,009,0732.9 %Total308,745,538100.0%Not Hispanic nor Latino258,267,94483.6 %White Hispanic26,735,7138.7 %Black or African American Hispanic1,243,4710.4 %American Indian or Alaska Native Hispanic685,1500.2 %Asian Hispanic209,1280.1 %Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander Hispanic58,4370.0 %Some other race Hispanic18,503,1036.0 %Two or more races Hispanic3,042,5921.0 %Total308,745,538100.0%

          • George Whitefield

            So whites are 63.7 % of population were blacks are 12.2% population .People never speak about that of part of the reason for the jobs being different in amounts.

          • Howard Bonds

            ok…if that’s the case…then why are African americans who have not gone to jail and have a degree have a much less chance of getting a job than a white person who has a felony and no high school diploma? also, the number 1 benefactor of affirmative action is white women….please explain what the problem is?

          • olblue9

            Hi, this card started as a story of hard work helping the writer to get a better education, and evolved into a AA discussion. Many replies have been deleted, so some responses may seem out of context.
            My only experience with AA was way back when it was first started.
            Your first question is a good one, if an uneducated convicted felon of any race got a job that I as an educated citizen had applied for, I would set my job goals higher. This job was too menial for you. Any job that would not hire you over the other guy… You are too over qualified for anyway.
            Don’t know about AA today helpin'”white” women. I’d say that over the last 45 years, the women’s movement hijacked the AA through some sort of political favor down the line.
            Many people use family connections to get jobs that they are not qualified for. Life sux.

          • Howard Bonds

            that statement you just made makes no sense.

          • olblue9

            So you have never heard of an example of a highly qualified applicant losing out a great job prospect to a less qualified family friend of the personnel director? Lots to look forward to on the job hunt gig.
            I guess “life sux” is a “white” thing, sorry.

          • Howard Bonds

            Yes…but unfortunately its the exact opposite of your statement….Ive worked at places like that my whole life….im sorry that your narrative of life seems to be an infinite vortex of anti-reality..”it must be that the job your applying for it too low for you” so what then food stamps??
            You cant imply that education will fix it when colleges crank out people every day they refuse to hire and instead readily and blatantly hire with no education whatsoever…maybe you should peruse employment statistics..you will see it…trust me it will pop right up at you.

          • olblue9

            I grewup poor and parent-less back before it was as popular as it is today. True that I am not familiar with every situation/ statistic related to every employment opportunity in America today.
            My options were limited then, just like they are for many today. I was born poor but I had a strong back, and was willing to do any job and worked construction jobs till I dropped for many years.
            I would not recommend this to any person. Any government job is the best solution. I don’t see them drying up any time soon. Uncle Sam wants You…
            Best chance for a great job is to be born wealthy and work for the family business, or not. WTH you’re rich, why do you need to work? Good luck, chin up.

          • George Whitefield

            Because you are wrong.Thats why.

    • Charles Edwin Langford Jr.

      No my blood line is african just like father,his father and fathers before that – so chose you words wisely and do not make a claim you can not back up

  • PhillyStateCollege

    Mine didn’t either, all of my ancestors were white northerners.

    Too bad though, I WISH my ancestors had owned black slaves and whipped the sh*t out of them regularly every single day! That would be pretty funny! Lololololololol. But guess the “cool” people in Hollyweird wouldn’t like that very much!

  • Charles Edwin Langford Jr.

    As a researcher of African history, when I see white people, I see white privilege.

    • olblue9

      History records just breeze by a lot of good people who were just getting by and not making waves. These people had no privilege, and nobody to depend on to record their lives.
      History only records what is popular at the time. Just look at the events that happen daily that are not in recorded history. Now we think that all is better with our internet/ Facebook. Maybe, but a lot was lost to history these last 400 years.
      What’s with “yellow, red, brown, black” privilege. Let’s not forget that these exist in certain situations. The only true privilege is”Green”. If you got that… ain’t no need for any other color.

  • Guest

    All the excuses these Neanderthals use to not owe up to their ancestors’ brutuality and oppression of Blacks and Native people. They sure have a lot to atone for how they treat my people and keep them down.

    • Carol Rogala

      I don’t know any Neanderthals. My ancestors came from Italy on a boat, could not speak English, worked hard and got their kids thru school. They didn’t oppress anyone and will not be atoning for anyone’s perceived pain. These are not excuses, these are facts. I see you don’t list your name.

      • Lauren Jones

        Italy colonized Somalia. Italy is racist as hell- did you hear Roberto Calderoli‘s racist comparison of Cécile Kyenge — the Italo-Congolese new Minister of Integration — to an orangutan. . Not all Italian- Americans are racist… but lets keep it real… Europe is a very racist continent and there is alot of racism going on up there today, but at the moment we are talking about America. Secondly— nobody is asking you to be GUILTY… just to understand that (despite the discrimination Italians received upon immigrating to the US… even being called Black themselves at one point) White Americans no matter where your family immigrated from— profited from slavery till this day. My ancestors worked for free– trillions of dollars worth of labor to build this country. Consider 3/5 of a human with their blood sweat, and tears and thousands of hangings — not the simply five (like those five italians who were hanged– Italy was about to go to war with the US over … until the US put a stop to it). We are still considered 3/5 human today…. people think the majority of Blacks are scum.. when in all actuality those Blacks never receive the boots to lift themselves off their boot straps with.

        • Carol Rogala

          Please do me the favor of rereading my post. You either did not understand it or have very poor reading comprehension. None of my ancestors have ever profited from slavery and you were not a slave. By the way, did you know there are other cultures in America and they feel oppressed too?

          • Lauren Jones

            Of course there are plenty of other cultures that are feeling the oppression in the states– like Latinos, Asians, even some White people. I wasn’t a slave but my great great grandfather was. That is all that is needed to set the ball rolling in a downward spiral. You benefit off of slavery to this day– cause without my 3/5th of a human ancestors this country would be nothing. Patronizing me I see; but sorry I do read very well and you should check with your elders in your family to see if anyone of your ancestors had anything to do with the colonization of Africa back in the late 1800’s. Maybe you will be surprise at what you find out. Maybe indeed your ancestors own slaves in a different part of the world.

          • Guest

            Of course there are plenty of other cultures that are feeling the
            oppression in the states– like Latinos, Asians, even some White people.
            I wasn’t a slave but my great great grandfather was. That is all that
            is needed to set the ball rolling in a downward spiral. You benefit off
            of slavery to this day– cause without my 3/5th of a human ancestors
            this country would be nothing. Patronizing me I see; but sorry I do
            read very well and you should check with your elders in your family to
            see if anyone of your ancestors had anything to do with the colonization
            of Africa back in the late 1800’s. Maybe you will be surprise at what
            you find out. Maybe indeed your ancestors own slaves in a different part
            of the world. You don’t have to feel guilty about slavery, cause like you said–none of us was born– but the least you can do is acknowledge that it happened and it has a profound effect to the Black people today of the modern era. It’s not like White Guilt will do anything– but the understanding of Black history and and how it effects the Blacks of today is a step in the right direction.

          • Lauren Jones

            Of course there are plenty of other cultures that are feeling the
            oppression in the states– like Latinos, Asians, even some White people.
            I wasn’t a slave but my great great grandfather was. That is all that
            is needed to set the ball rolling in a downward spiral. You benefit off
            of slavery to this day– cause without my 3/5th of a human ancestors
            this country would be nothing. Patronizing me I see; but sorry I do
            read very well and you should check with your elders in your family to
            see if anyone of your ancestors had anything to do with the colonization
            of Africa back in the late 1800’s. Maybe you will be surprise at what
            you find out. Maybe indeed your ancestors own slaves in a different part
            of the world. You don’t have to have White Guilt: it’s not like that helps us Blacks– all it does is pressure a White person hold the door for us at the Wawa, but please don’t perform Black Blame– cause the least you can do is learn Black History and recognize that that same History effected the progression of Blacks as a collective till this day, and we have to put alot of effort into undoing 400 years of oppression.

          • Howard Bonds

            Sorry Mary…but you want us to feel bad about Italians? oh im so sorry your bloodthirsty murderous culture didn’t cut your family in on the thieving…..oh WAIT! yes they DID! they let you and your family move to the Americas for their personal profit and benefit… lands that the Italians and others murdered, enslaved, and stole from the entire native American civilization! Oh we read your post…did you read it?

          • Michael

            Sorry Howard you want is to feel bad about blacks? Lmao its funny i see your post of ignorance across these race topics ranting nothing of true substance or value. Cry me a river.

  • tldrkhnsm

    Blacks are “owed” something – it’s called reparations for “unjust enrichment”, a legal concept signifying being unfairly advantaged (in this case, the trillions of dollars of free slave labour). Many groups have rec’d reparations – hell, even Germany was rebuilt with Allied countries money. Whites continue to take advantage of the legacy of slavery and privilege. I don’t sit around thinking about slavery, but I’m smart enough to critically analyze its modern day effects. Moreover, my closest white friend grew up poor. He quit school early, but was still able to put on a tie, use my parents suburban address and get jobs my uni-educated black friends couldn’t get. You can save your guilt – don’t want or need it. What I do want action on issues of social justice and equity and for whites to realize there culpability in it…I’ll fight for it, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • Carol Rogala

      Sorry dude. I have no culpability. I have no guilt.

      • Howard Bonds

        I like how you have to play pretend with yourself about guilt, culpability like we want you to feel something….rejoice! these things are facts! I know, I know… you were raised to blame other people for everything, so its difficult to hear people talk about you the way you talk about others…(no doubt)….do you want me to apologize to you for the actions of Europeans? You think that’s my job too? when will yall stop being so lazy?

    • Michael

      So it would also mean that blacks owe whites as well, due to the Barbary Slave trade that took place between the 1530s and the 1780s. North Africans would enslave millions of European white people.
      Slavery in itself was practiced by nearly all ancient man.
      Just a FYI im Mexican. Just stating that because all i hear and see is you come from white privilege you wouldnt understand. Which is a BS statement BTW

  • Beth

    No one is “owed” anything.

    • Carol Rogala

      Thank you!

    • Howard Bonds

      Really? you all seem pretty dedicated to the cause that you are “owed” a picture perfect history where your ancestors never made any mistakes and are perfect in every way. Why do you think I owe you that? because that’s what this is about really.

      • paul Odene

        You black? I owned slaves in modern haiti and in bogota colombia. Africa doesnt have a nation without slaves. Blacks love slaves. Every black nation has slaves.

      • Kymie Sanderson

        Oh really? Her ancestors made those mistakes? How do you know? Are you making a generalized assumption about her and her ancestors based on her skin color? That’s racist too. Fairly certain we all accept slavery was f’d up. But maybe you should address the face that there were black slave owners as well, or that a large amount 80-95% of the SOUTHERN white population didn’t own slaves. Or maybe the fact that many of those slaves were sold into slavery by other African peoples. The only reason this is such an issue here is because we happen to be one of the last countries to abolish slavery. It occurred many other places for much longer stints of time, oh and guess what. It wasn’t all BLACK people. African Americans do not have a corner on the “woe is me” history market, though they seem to think they do. Native Americans had it much worse, and I could still give you historical context as to why while there history is terrible as well, much of it is not any worse than what they were doing to eachother before we here.

        • Howard Bonds

          Yes really. That is exactly what is at play here. You can try and cry and throw a tantrum all you want but facts are facts…Also, as you pointed out quite accurately Native Americans had it worse…Gee, I wonder who inflicted 500 years of slavery and genocide on the Native Americans? Lets see….white people. Its funny how white people “AS ALWAYS” try to fight an argument from a pretend history. Whites enslaved native Americans in Massive numbers and shipped them off to Europe as slaves…The trans-atlantic slave trade started as a way to sell Native Americans to European Markets….long before Africans were a twinkle in the white mans eye..Now, did the native Americans sell themselves into slavery? No.

          So you can throw away your phony bigoted facade, as if don’t understand who were enslaved and mistreated the longest…and who did it. Also, there is the little matter of the human experimentation and the genocide that whites inflicted on Africans and Native Americans here in the US and abroad…

          I really don’t care about your stupid coal mine picture…the only reason whites worked like that is because they enslaved and murdered so many Native Americans there want anybody left to take advantage of….so you turned on yourselves. That’s a personal failing and in no way removes or justifies the actions of Europeans….matter of fact it proves the point….You AGREED to allow yourselves to be treated like dirt. Thats your own fault.

          • Kymie Sanderson

            You’re right Native Americans didn’t sell eachother to white people before we got here. However many of the larger tribes would either completely assimilate their enemies, enslave them, wipe them out, or in some cases use them for human sacrifice. And this whole “Native Americans had no sense of land ownership” is complete and utter crap. They may not have had individual land ownership, but they very much had tribal territories that they defended and fought over. And you never addressed the fact that you continue to make broad sweeping generalizations about all white people. There are far more white people who had nothing to do with the slave trade than those that did. AND these “bigoted whites” are also the ones who fought to abolish it. How about reading up on the history of slavery as a whole, and not just a 400-500 year span. Out of how many thousands of years of human history?

          • Howard Bonds

            However nothing…more excuses. and the usual lies of white supremacy. what Europeans did was disgusting to Native Americans…fought to abolish it was the least they could do. They didn’t fight to abolish their genocide and land theft and as far as sweeping generalizations…They didn’t seem to mind benefiting from it all. They didn’t care one iota what they stole from Native Americans…even the peaceful ones, even the christian ones, even the ones that loved white people…murdered them off too. For every white settler or person who came to the Americas they benefited and didn’t give one dam what they did or who they did it to….you conveniently ignored all the sterilizations and the human experimentation that went on until the 1960’s…BTW. Sorry but when it comes to morals they screwed up…They just didn’t have any. Dont put up stupid pictures and try to hide behind them You chose to treat yourselves that way.

          • Kymie Sanderson

            Oh, you have no idea how many atrocities against Natives Americans I could list. My heritage on my mother’s side is Sioux. Look up the Wounded Knee Massacre. Oh, but no, I’m also European in ancestry so I’m not allowed to talk about that am i? Oh, how about all the militias, drug lords, and rebels killing innocents in Africa RIGHT NOW. Or how about the Rwandan genocide. Africans killing africans in horrific ways…over what? Who is Tutsi and who is Hutu?

          • Howard Bonds

            Your desire to try to make me give you some kind of closure so you can go back to being a bigot is not my responsibility.

            I am not the one that put up that stupid meme and said:

            “See my ancestors worked in a mine and took classes at night so the fact we stole and murdered entire continents has nothing to do with anything. Dont blame others for your bad choices.”

            My point was, and is…these people in the picture made a bad choice. Other people had no choice. what 1901? Oh please tell us all about the choices!

            Give me a break, its okay to put up a bigoted meme and make sweeping generalizations about the laziness of all the effected people who have suffered and died due to white supremacy and basically boil it down to “a bad choice”. But pointing it out as a BS excuse to prop up your ancestors as honest and hard working makes me the Villian?

            I am sorry but they were not. They Never were and in fact few if any even considered their actions towards all the people of the earth as a problem.

            But no no, that never happened. We have all just made bad choices. The hawaiins, native americans, africans, mexicans, australians, south americans, New zealanders and all the people that have been destroyed by your ancestors ignorant empires merely have made bad choices…All the millions of them…all at once…

            Do you understand how stupid that sounds?

          • Kymie Sanderson

            No, I actually don’t want closure from you. I know damn well that white people screwed up. I also know many of the things my family had a part in, and those they did no. Slaveryeas not something they had a part in. And I am not the one who posted this meme. As far as being a bigot. I have many friends of different ethnic, national, and religious backgrounds. Including African American and can tell you without any doubt, in their eyes, you would be the big to for continuing to blame every individual for something they didn’t all take part in.

          • Howard Bonds

            Don’t blame me for your defense of this ignorant and bigoted meme. You came out on your own and did that yourself. You are the one that decided to step up to that plate. The meme is bigoted, racist and ignorant at best. You came right out to defend it. I didnt say anything other than than to deny the concept that I owe white people an apology. which is exactly what this meme and that lady (and you) want. you want us all to exonerate your ancestors actions towards the people of the Earth…thats what white people call “laziness”. its everyone elses fault but their own and we owe them an apology because “Gasp” They decided to work in a coal mine and take night classes… Why didnt they do that in Europe? why did they have to go and destroy the lives of other people? Why are you so desperate to defend that concept that this meme represents? Dont look at me, I didnt do it.

          • Kymie Sanderson

            I don’t think any of us want an aplogy, except for you. What we are saying is that if our ancestors didn’t have a part in the slave trade WE don’t owe YOU one and don’t want to continually be lumped in with those you think do. Quite honestly, even those whose ancestors were slave owners don’t owe you one either. They are not responsible for what their ancestors did over a century ago. Slavery is a horribly and disgusting thing, but your ancestors weren’t the first to be enslaved, and they sure as hell weren’t the last (look up modern slavery), and neither are your ancestors inoccent of any attrocities. Simple fact is humans can be asshole to eachother, doesn’t matter the color. Color just seems to be a convenient excuse to justify atrocities in human history. If we happen to be the same color, then it’s religion, if we are the same religion, then it’s nationality. Constantly accusing people who have nothing to do with past or current racism is the easiest way to escalate it and hurt your self appointed crusade

          • Howard Bonds

            Ok…your the ones that chose the path that everyone on earth is responsible except your ancestors…everyone on earth is responsible except you. That’s the take away. Again I didn’t write this stupid meme. Your people did. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Your ancestors made it their point to own everyone on this continent and several others. Its a fallacy that they didn’t own slaves..that’s what white supremacy was. That was the whole point. Your a typical case in denial…. its anyone else but you. You have fantasies that somehow you didn’t benefit from it and that allows you to reset back to being a bigot. I didn’t ask you for dirt. Your the ones that came out begging, not me.

            Your always looking to blame someone else for your ancestors actions…or worse, always trying to pin the struggle of people that have to deal with it as personal failings…like you, and beggars like you just did. Your the ones with the crusade…you are the ones with an insane need to rewrite history, create fallacies and blame others for ancestors actions. You say over a century ago…last I checked 1960 isn’t a century ago…More denial and more nonsense…I don’t even know what you get out of it. Nice try attempting to pin you racism on me though…

            You want me to agree with you? Fine. I wrote the meme. Its my ancestors that wiped out entire continents of people, I am the one that denies people basic human rights and tried to turn people into farm animals. I am the one that forcibly sterilized people, and performed experiments on people….this was all a result of laziness…my math is all wrong, it was in fact only hundreds of years ago…I imagined people being murdered, burned alive, lynched, tortured, and having their personal property stolen over and over again. It was hundreds of years ago that people had to be escorted to school by the Army…they had to force us to go to school. It had nothing to do with Europeans at all.

            Its just some lies we thought up one day. The entire planet of brown people are all lazy and if we just worked in a coal mine and took a night class the whole thing would be cleared up..

            We imagined the whole thing…our bad. We are so so sorry for you. It must be hard having people speak badly of you at a mere 1/00000 of how badly white people speak about us…I am so so sorry.

          • Kymie Sanderson

            Just wow. Obviously you are stuck thinking everyone is a bigot, and this whole white supremacy thing you constantly shove forward proves it. Racism will never end because people like you don’t want it to. You say you do, but your actions speak otherwise. I have friends that are asian, mexican, African american. I wonder, do you have friends that are white? Or do you just go through life assuming every white person is a bigot? You accuse someone of something they aren’t guilty of enough eventually they will react. You want to talk about rewriting history, blame the idiots who are eliminating all the sings of confederate history. No they shouldn’t be celebrated, but forgetting that that history happened is going to doom us to repeat it

          • Howard Bonds

            Wow…you really want me to be a bigot and a racist like you. You are so out there you cant even see how out of whack your thought process is. I have quite a few family members that are white. I dont recall hating them or expecting anything from them. I also dont recall them running around blaming people who have been victimized by historical actions.

            They wouldn’t be bigoted enough to agree with this racist meme either. its clearly racist. My uncle loved to perform civil war reenactment as confederate, and was personal friend with Larry the cable guy…but that’s another conversation. If you are arrogant enough to stand on another continent that isn’t Europe and pretend that this was all the result of “hard work” Than you are out of your mind. You don’t want to be blamed…but that meme is about blaming others…If you cant see that then you have a lot of work to do…you know, dealing with reality.

            You want to dance around the conversation to try to put people down than go ahead. All I have said is that meme is nonsense. Its an arrogant and racist way to demand an apology. If you believe in that meme, you believe in putting other people down for your own benefit. thats your problem.

          • Kymie Sanderson

            No I am not a racist, no I am not a bigot. Listen, I don’t want to argue anymore, because honestly this is having exactly the opposite effect of what we both want and causing more anger and hate. So I am sorry if the point I am trying to make is coming across as racist or bigoted when that is exactly the opposite of what I want. So all I’m going to conclude with is have a Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays

      • disqus_2WE5eZrg16

        I really don’t get the whole “sins of the father” argument. No one chooses who they’re born into and what race they’re born as, and it seems extremely counterproductive to punish later generations for the crimes that their distant ancestors committed. This sort of thing isn’t aimed at curbing or ending racism; rather, it’s a really selfish and futile attempt at revenge.

      • disqus_2WE5eZrg16

        I really don’t get the whole “sins of the father” argument. No one chooses who they’re born into and what race they’re born as, and it seems extremely counterproductive to punish later generations for the crimes that their distant ancestors committed. This sort of thing isn’t aimed at curbing or ending racism; rather, it’s a really selfish and futile attempt at revenge.

  • Carol Rogala

    My grandfather came on a boat from Italy and started a company that si still open today. He had 5 kids and wife who did not work, no welfare and no slaves. Slavery occurred several hundred years ago. Racism towards Italians, Irish and any other newcomer to America was standard. We all got past that and are not sitting here crying in our soup. We don’t owe anyone anything. Period. Agree with your statements.

  • To thine own self be true

    My white and black/”colored” ancestors owned slaves. Although I do not constantly agonize over it, I can admit it did give me advantages over others and continues to benefit me. I don’t know why that is so difficult for so many – admit you have advantages from unequal opportunities that continue to benefit you after centuries. I have land, homes, and access to wealth because of that inequality. Those who were slaves did not – and many of their ancestors continue to be put in cycles of poverty that I will never have to deal with.

  • barry irving

    …from the looks of this picture…they were pretty much Slaves themselves. In America they weren’t even considered to be White!

  • Attila

    I’m Hungarian myself born and raised there. Let me give you a little history lesson. Hungarians never slaved anyone ad never colonized other nations. Hungarians however were enslaved by the Ottomans that includes the Moors who were black Muslims. As a Hungarian I want the black race to pay us back for their
    crimes and the pain and suffering and the 150 yrs of colonial rule.. 3
    million of us were slaved and dispersed in to the Ottoman Empire as far
    as Nubia which is now called Sudan. We want justice and some form of
    reimbursement from blacks. An apology in good faith is a minimum.

    • Howard Bonds

      Go to the Sudanese and get it….no problem.

  • Howard Bonds

    I like how this is written as a backhanded racist insult towards black people. I really enjoy the two faced simple minded flavor of it. The facts are wrong anyway…where were black people allowed to have cool jobs where they could afford to go to school anyway? what school? what jobs? in 1909 most black people were enslaved as share croppers or forced into chain gangs..(or making a living singing and dancing)…So apparently part of white denial is that the misery they inflict on people are called “choices”. I’m sure the native Americans, Africans, black Australians, Hawaiians and all the other civilizations they destroyed would find argument with the term “choices”. I take issue with this childish statements of “work hard” “make something of yourself” as if black people don’t work hard and have never heard the words before….its sick, racist, childish, insane and most importantly dishonest…..for the love of god grow up.

  • George Whitefield

    No,three lefts makes a right,lol.

  • John Mars Weaver

    I come from a dirt poor family we never had slaves to help us along..I am a homeless white man trying to survive..and I get laughed at by black people all the time cause they seem to think that all white people have money and aren’t poor

  • John Mars Weaver

    I come from a dirt poor family we never had slaves to help us along..I am a homeless white man trying to survive..and I get laughed at by black people all the time cause they seem to think that all white people have money and aren’t poor

  • Howard Bonds

    I like this stupid picture. All I see are white people silly enough to allow themselves to be mistreated. No one forced them into that coal mine and no one told them to move to the Americas. Europeans made the choice to treat themselves this way. I am not sure how their poor decisions somehow invalidate slavery, genocide, human experimentation and forced sterilization. They didnt seem to have any problems profiting from the genocide and land theft Native Americans suffered. They knew it was going on and chose to come here any way…As I see it, they got what they deserved.

  • Adam

    My ancestors were Italians during the time of slavery, and no slaves existed in Italy at that time.

    Slavery is something people need to talk about, together with the human genome and reparations for slavery.

    There should be a debate about reparations in order to expose to people that ‘race’, as in a category of human beings (not as a cultural identifier) just doesn’t exist. They need to see how slavery in the US couldn’t have been justified without the idea of Race, since without it, slavery would have been immediately illegalized.

 

Tweets by Michele Norris