I have dated Hispanic girls before. I can’t say that I regret it, but I can see why, in a healthy society, such behavior would be discouraged.
The “healthiest” society in the world today is probably in Sweden. If you go anywhere else, you are likely to hear such trite “irrefutable” truths as White Light has enlightened us with, i.e., “…why, in a healthy society, such behavior would be discouraged.” It absolutely amazes me that one can still read comments like this posted by allegedly intelligent and educated people. It reminds me of condescending comments made by so called “liberals” back in the 60’s, who often broadcasted the fact that they had lots of friends who were Black.
Even Sweden is not a paradise though; hard drinking, a growing culture of violence and the inklings of anger towards immigrants.
I’m sure you would agree, Tim, that there is no perfection in life. However, Sweden is by far a much less violent society than our own. And, the Swedes don’t come close to the kind of hard drinkers that one would find in Australia or even in Philadelphia during any major sporting event. I was only using Sweden as one example of a “relatively” healthy and balanced society in comparison to the rest of the world. And, I’ll take the “inklings” of anger towards immigrants there, than the flagrant bigotry and hatred directed at new arrivals in America…or native born Americans, who are “people of color,” like the recently crowned “Miss America.”
America is violent because there are vast numbers of people on the make in a dog eat dog, winner take all society, where losing is not acceptable and winning is everything. And believe me, Scandinavians drink a LOT, it’s just that unlike the Brits and Aussies say, they are slightly less inclined to be violent when they do. Sweden’s approach as with many Scandinavian countries is to try to be capitalist with a socialist tinge, so that as many people as possible benefit, not just the rich 10 or 15% like in the US or UK. That alone, that drive towards greater equality and a fairer tax system means Swedes are less desperate and when they do find work, it is reasonably well paid, rather than the pitiful wages a low paid worker may get in the US. In the end, it has a lot to do with economics, not so much politics.
British society on the whole seems to follow the US model; make a fast buck, pay no tax, pay low wages, rip everybody off at every point and retire to the Bahamas.
America is violent because there are vast numbers of people on the make in a dog eat dog, winner take all society, where losing is not acceptable and winning is everything.
No. America is violent because of the non-Asian minorities. You can look up the crime statistics yourself.
OK, Tim. There are many reasons why Americans are an extremely violent society. Scandinavians used to the most violent people in Europe in the middle of the first millennium of the current era. They were the original bad asses. But, god bless them, they eventually got over it, although it did take centuries for them to tone down their baser instincts. But, Americans, on the other hand, have not been so fortunate….yet. It will probably take another couple of centuries before we get over our infatuation with rugged individualism…handguns, rifles, shotguns, ninja knives and other such dangerous extensions of a person’s ego and our other anger management issues. This country is absolutely filled with a younger generation, who adore the “me” concept of upward social and economic mobility i.e., the individual is at the center of the universe. If someone else has to suffer and get wasted, so that “I” can get ahead, that’s O.K. I don’t want to generalize here. However, many adults younger than 40 have been given whatever they wanted from their over indulgent parents. Few of them have had to work hard for a “reward.” And, many of this generation have been passed along in the education process, instead of “failing” and being required to repeat a grade. Consequently, they are not adequately prepared to be successful in college, a technical school or the Trades. In addition, many young people are insensitive to the feelings and opinions of others. And, they continue to harbor their intolerance of people and ideas that are different from their own. One last question that I have, Tim, is about your belief that the British follow our example and pay no taxes……really? You might want to reexamine that hypothesis. The British traditionally have had an aversion to their “colonial” brothers and sisters, whom they considered uneducated, crude and ignorant. And, where do you think the money comes from to help pay for the various social, governmental and economic programs? Everyone pays taxes.
Yeah, the Vikings were a bad bunch, but they then settled down, became the Normans and then ruled Europe for a number of centuries; did quite well for themselves all told!
What you said about American rugged individualism is really not much different from Britain too, and the same selfishness, with the ‘me’ being the centre of the universe is taking place here, but the ideas of common liberty for the Englishman were exported to the US in the first place. And slowly we are becoming a very violent society, without the guns thankfully. The UK now has the highest rate of violent assaults in the world. Australia had that dubious honour for a few years, now we’ve overtaken them.
‘The British traditionally have had an aversion to their “colonial” brothers and sisters, whom they considered uneducated, crude and ignorant.’ The ones that looked or look down on Americans are the same as who would look down on people from backgrounds like mine. Many people from Britain emigrated to replicate the class system, and many many others were going to get away from the bloody class system! The stereotype of the posh Brit talking with an RP accent is like assuming all Americans wear cowboy hats and cowboy boots! It’s just a stereotype, which Hollywood probably more than any other perpetuates. Many Brits like myself are regular normal people living in boring humdrum residential towns, not that much unlike towns in the US with varied accents that any outside Britain would struggle to understand. Check youtube for English accents; it might surprise you.
The rich it seems are paying very little tax; Google tax avoidance in the UK. And not to rub it in, but some of the worst offenders are American companies like Google, Amazon and Starbucks. People in the UK boycotted Starbucks so they promised to pay more tax.
Good morning, Tim. Touche to you on a few points. However, where did you ever get the idea that the British Crown and later, Parliament, condoned or even permitted any “individualism”?? That’s what got the American Colonies in hot water with the King in the first place. And, the “common liberty” ideas were not exported here by the British Crown….they were born and nurtured here by “Americans” of British descent. Point number two: Unlike their wandering Norse predecessors, the Normans certainly stayed home more. But, I would argue that they never set aside their aggressiveness and ruthlessness, they merely fine tuned it. I’m sure your Anglo-Saxon ancestors would agree with that notion. I’m not criticizing the Norman culture. That’s just the way it was at the time all over Europe and the world.
However, where in blazes did you get your statistics about the UK having the highest rate of violent assaults in the world? You Brits lag pretty far behind such vacation hot spots as the Congo…Brazil…Syria….Afghanistan….Pakistan…Nigeria …and Somalia. And, you guys aren’t even close to my own American inner city, Ghetto, “Wild West” mentality. The numbers say it all, Tim. There are more of “us” than you Brits; consequently, it figures that our crime stats would be higher than yours. And, neither the UK nor America even qualifies amongst the “most violent” nation categories in the world.
British individualism helped shape the British Empire, in the same way American individualism helped build the United States. All the explorers, inventors, scientists, writers, thinkers, entrepreneurs, soldiers, geographers, teachers, missionaries, traders of all kinds, adventurers of all kinds. We have a tendency of creating and inventing, dominating and expanding into all kinds of things; we certainly did anyway. The Industrial revolution, parliament, most of the world sports, the Internet itself and too many things to mention were kickstarted or invented by British people. Even the notion of capitalism came out of the Protestant work ethic which was largely British. I could go on here. The Brits have had as much rugged individualism pound for pound as any country ever has. And I said British not necessarily just English!
I don’t wish to argue here, but the ideas of common liberty, the idea of the Englishman particularly to be free and make his mark was indeed an English thing; not solely, but they were ideas present long before America severed the ties with ol’ Georgie.
I don’t have Anglo Saxon ancestors!!! But I’ll let that pass. Guinness and leeks were probably my ancestors forte!
The Normans went pretty much everywhere in Europe. They controlled Sicily, they got to Italy, France obviously, they were more or less the gang behind the First Crusade and of course they invaded England and became our long line of beloved monarchs! And there was Strongbow in Ireland.
I did hear about the violent assault rates, but I am inclined to be honest to agree with you. America has a much bigger population and the things I have read about South Africa and Brazil turn me to jelly just thinking about them. Here’s a link you might like to look at though (put a link here and it played up) Just Google ‘highest rate of violent assaults in the world’ and see the some of them especially the Telegraph.
Just out of curiosity, Tim…if you don’t have any Anglo-Saxon ancestors…who do you blame for all of your genetic faults? I point the finger at my Irish Gaelic, Welsh and German ancestors on my maternal side of the tree. But, I place equally heavy responsibility on the crazy, out of control paternal Romanian side of the oak. What a country!
My personal genetic faults?! I’m not sure what you mean mate? You’ll have to explain that. My ancestry is Irish and Welsh, but possibly a touch of Cornish and after that goodness knows!
One of the reasons white supremacy hasn’t really rooted in the UK is that Celtic people consider themselves distinct from Anglo people, and if you ask a Celt about white supremacists they’ll point towards England! In the US I noticed that many of the supremacists talk about the Nordic/Celtic race as if they are one people. Not really true, at least certainly not culturally. I noticed that some white supremacy groups use the Celtic cross as well, which pisses many Irish people off and Celtic groups all over the UK. Cheeky bastards!
Tim….sorry about my poor attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor. I jokingly blame my parent’s genetics for many, if not all, of my medical, social and emotional failings.
My late mother was mostly Catholic Irish, with a smattering of German and Welsh. And, as I said earlier, my father was a wild and crazy Romanian.
My mother’s side of the family have never been “warm and fuzzy” towards the English. Quite the opposite. And, while the Celts and Nordic peoples were distinctly separate cultures, I think that I read where the seacoast Irish cities of Belfast, Dublin, Cork and Shannon were settled and built by the Norse Viking Invaders. And, while the Vikings never really subjugated the Irish, historical accounts which I’ve read indicate there was a lot of genetic mixing of the two cultures over time.
As far as the American variety of “White Supremacists” is concerned…unfortunately…many of its followers are descended from Irish Catholic immigrants. These contemporary neo-nazis have all but forgotten their cultural past and history. Otherwise, they would not be so flippant with the use of the Cross of any kind as a symbol of their ignorance and hatred.
Education is something where the facts simply don’t reflect what most people think. This younger generation spends more time on homework and studying than any other. And test scores are flat. The reason why there is a crisis in education is not people getting dumber, but dumb people staying in the system rather than dropping out.(For proof, look at test scores) And achievement is only tangentially correlated with effort.
What “facts” are you talking about? A person’s educational background certainly contributes to their thought processes. But, it is not the only factor in how or why they think. Human beings and other transient life forms think, because they can…and do. And, what else do test scores reveal about a student? Could be that some intelligent kids are better at taking tests. While some other equally smart kids have a perpetual brain fart, when a test booklet is placed in front of them. A really good test score might mean that the student had an above average ability to retain and repeat answers and other information, i.e., a good memory for detail. Another kid might be equally intelligent but suffer from dyslexia…or some other cognitive disability. Another equally smart student might not have had breakfast when they left for school or didn’t get adequate sleep the night before, which could be the reason why they did not do as well as the “star” pupils. But, it sure as hell has nothing to do with whether or not they are “dumb” and just staying in the system for the ride.
But, it sure as hell has nothing to do with whether or not they are “dumb” and just staying in the system for the ride.
Google “heritability of intelligence.”
The “healthiest” society in the world today is probably in Sweden.
Sweden is a pretty healthy country. There are still some unique cultural values that aren’t very great, but it still is one of the best places on earth to live, despite(because of?) it’s “socialism.” However it has of late begun importing large amounts of immigrants, because it sees what America and Britain have gone through and thought that they would love that. After all, having non-White provides that White privilege that is so wonderfully beneficial. So now, they see their cities getting burnt, despite all their talk about being “not racist.” Welcome to the club!
To some countries, whose birthrate has drastically fallen over the past couple of decades, new immigrant blood is a plus…especially if the newcomers are well educated, honest, with a good work ethic, and, of course, tolerant, willing to learn a new language and agree to become absorbed into the host culture. The British did away with slavery long before America did and only after a bloody civil war. And, they have had their own rude awakening to immigrant unrest and violence. However, if the Swedes or any other European country opening its doors to immigrants just used America as a barometer for permitting foreigners resident status, they would probably slam the doors shut in a heart beat. Every generation of new, native born Americans has treated the next wave of foreign immigrants, for the most part, like lepers and vermin. It’s bloody amazing that we have been able to survive this long, with just one revolution and only one civil war.
especially if the newcomers are well educated, honest, with a good work ethic, and, of course, tolerant, willing to learn a new language and agree to become absorbed into the host culture.
And who don’t burn your cities?
What you have shown is that Whites_are_bad_too. Yep. And that’s why non-Whites weren’t thrilled when Whites colonized their lands. However, you demand that Whites lie down and accept the lost of their lands, the burning of their cities. Sweden never stole any land or enslaved the immigrants, yet they burned Swedish cities anyway..
Hold on, pardner. Ever hear of Norway? It used to be part of the Kingdom of Sweden, until the Norwegians revolted and “threw the bums out” in the 19th Century.
And, the Swedes invaded Poland and a few other Baltic Countries back in the 1700’s. Better go back and read your Swedish history again.
And, I never “demanded” or “inferred” that White People stand idly by, while their property, land, cities or whatever are burned by mobs of angry and crazed minorities. Maybe my writing is unclear…or too long. Or, maybe it’s just you. Either way, while I don’t condone violence, if someone is foolish enough to try to break into my home and threaten or attempt to harm me or my family…and they get past the dog…I don’t think they will make it past my Remington 12 gauge magnum and its load of steel buckshot.
Sweden never stole any land or enslaved the immigrants, yet they burned Swedish cities anyway.
Yes, but you supported the mass amnesty and immigration surge act, which will make White Americans a minority in their land. You think the Swedish should let themselves be a minority through mass immigration as well, that the fact that the immigrants rioted should not effect that at all.
White Light….tell me, my friend….when you reply or pose a question on this venue, are you sleep deprived, not feeling well, stoned or inebriated? Sometimes it’s difficult for me to follow your train of thought. And, your grammar isn’t always in top form, either. At any rate, let’s move on to your latest rant.
I told you yesterday that the Swedes very definitely in fact did invade and steal land from neighboring Baltic countries in the 18th Century. Maybe you weren’t listening close enough to my history side bar. And, the Swedes don’t give a hoot what anyone else thinks about their social welfare programs or their immigration policies. They don’t care what you or I think. And, that’s a good thing. The Swedes are quite capable of handling their own interests and problems. Too bad I can’t say the same thing about the American Congress. Our politicians are so involved with their own self interests, agendas and concerns about being castigated by their own party members, that they couldn’t agree on when to take a potty break, let alone work together to actually do something beneficial for the majority of the American People.
One last thing, before I really get carried away tonight….as a result of the declining birth rate among white people in the United States of America today, we are already well on our way to becoming a minority in this country within the next 50-100 years. The birth rate is soaring among Hispanics. So, you had better be careful what you say about our Latin American friends and neighbors. If you don’t learn to adapt, bend a little, become a lot more tolerant of ethnic, racial and economic differences in America….you are going to wind up all alone.
Let me post that again
The immigrants aren’t from the Baltics.
Swedes don’t give a hoot what anyone else thinks about their social welfare programs or their immigration policies.
Unfortunately, the Swedes care deeply about what other people think of them, they are involved in the same liberal status whoring competition American is. However, their politicians are more responsive to the people. Swedish are still overwhelmingly White and there is little inequality, and Sweden is a fairly small nation in terms of population. Compare that with salad boll America with massive inequality and 300 million people, soon to be 500 million people, where a third of the campaign contributions come from one small ethnic group.(Guess which one)
Stitch this link together:
I know that the most likely outcome is deafest for America, but I won’t join the winning team just for winning’s own sake. I doubt anyone with priciiples would. There is still hope for America. To quote Theodore Herzel “If you will it, it is no fairytale.”
Nobody is asking you to join any team, White. And, in the current ludicrous stalemate between the Republicans and Democrats, there are no winners. Only losers. But, the real cost of such arrogance and obstinacy is and will continue to be born on the shoulders of the American taxpayer. The Congress gets paid during periods of “Economic Shutdown” because they consider themselves “essential” employees of the Government. Of course, the word “employee” is a misnomer, because our political wizards don’t think that they “work” for anyone but themselves. Maybe that’s why they were the ones who decided what their salary would be and what constituted their benefits package.
Now, as to our dialogue about the Swedes and their history of violence and other social issues, you continue to miss the points I’ve been trying to clarify for you…and others who may think like you. But, it doesn’t really matter what either one of us thinks about the Swedes. They are doing pretty damn well for themselves. In addition, it doesn’t really matter what you and I think about Racism in America. And, nothing except a major attitude adjustment at election time will ever force the Congress to do anything against its will. I wish that I could be more optimistic about America’s quest for the Holy Grail of economic stability, racial and ethnic harmony, social tolerance, and a more equitable balance between the poor and the wealthy. But, I’m not. I have extremely pessimistic feelings about the ability of our leadership to guide us out of the “Catch-22″ situation they have gotten us into. With the amount of debt we are currently crippled by and the complete dysfunctional nature of our Congress, I don’t see any hope for the masses of Americans at any point in the near future. It really is hopeless. The American people have been sodomized and broken by our political representatives. They still get paid…and we will continue to still get “screwed” by the misfits who we continue to reelect to office.
I don’t think racial and ethnic harmony is either achievable or desirable for America. Racial peace certainly, but not total racial integration. Most Whites want their children and grandchildren to be White. And even then, it isn’t possible. Behavior is just too different.
You have to look at the Jewish question to understand modern America. Jewish power over the Republican party drags America into wars and prevents it from standing up to immigration and free trade. Jewish power in the Democrat party prevents it from advocating real pro-worker economic policies that most of its base clearly wants. Why? The Jews achieve a lot of their control by controlling a lot of corporate power in America. Real socialism would means the wealthy Jews who donate half of the money to the Dem party would loose their power, in addition to their money. Thus, Dem policies are restricted to forcing workers to buy healthcare they can’t afford and raising taxes only slightly on the rich.
1 cite: jpost. com/Opinion/Columnists/Candidly-Speaking-Obama-Netanyahu-and-American-Jews
White….you seem to have had a fairly complete liberal education at some point in your lifetime. While your spelling and grammar are a bit rough around the edges, you are still sufficiently articulate enough, to communicate your thoughts and opinions. However, that being said, your are living proof of the deficiency of the American educational system. Your teachers obviously were unable to enlighten you about the positive benefits and beauty of human diversity. Then again, possibly your aversion to anything not Caucasian is the fault of your family and friends…or your negative personal experiences with people from different racial, ethnic and religious backgrounds. I don’t have any idea. I don’t think that you know either…and probably don’t care. I have to tell you, though, that I thoroughly enjoy listening to you blame the Jews for most of America’s economic woes, despite the fact that a large percentage of American millionaires and billionaires are White, Christian, or atheists. Warren Buffet is just one example. The Kennedy family is another. Then there are the Rockefellers, the Morgans, the Ford family, the Carnegies. The list of non-Jewish wealth goes on for a country mile. A fellow told me once that, the reason most Jewish men grow up to be doctors, lawyers, engineers, bankers and other well paid professionals, is that Jewish women over the generations selected only intelligent men for a husband. All of the ignorant and stupid Jewish men gradually became extinct. In the case of you and other White Supremacists and Narcissists with warped notions of the importance and purity of white society, however, you guys always seem to survive….and even thrive, while the stupid Jewish men have disappeared and gone the way of the dinosaur. How do you explain that? Instead of blaming most of America’s problems on Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, Catholics, and other groups different from your own, why not include all of the greedy, selfish, ignorant, intolerant, stupid and arrogant white people to that list of yours. And, you should start by adding your own name to the top of the docket. You sound like one of the more emotionally warped, culturally stagnant, and misguided writers I’ve ever read. A more crude and ignorant person would probably call you a dumb ass redneck. But, I would never do that. You are probably suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, as a result of the ass whoopings Black kids gave you, when you were growing up. And, probably a couple of Jewish kids habitually tricked you out of your lunch money. while the Latino kids terrorized you, because you soiled the reputation of their sisters and cousins. You have certainly given me an education, White. I used to think that all bigots and racists were uneducated morons. Now, I know better. There apparently are a lot of you out there in American society, who are well read AND educated. Which, as I explained earlier, is not a very good indicator of how successful our educational system has become.
I don’t think the point of our education system should be indoctrination. I’ll remember this next time liberals want to raise taxes to pay for education.
About a third of all billionaires are Jewish, meaning that two thirds aren’t. Yet the Jews are two percent of the White population. Suppose there was equal populations of White gentiles and Jews. At this level of over-representation, Jews would represent 96% of the billionares.
How did they get this power? They have IQs that are far in excess of other White Europeans, as well as superiority in other character traits, such as working hard and future-time orientation. This was the result of centuries of eugenic effects. The ignorant Jews who could not read the Torah or succeed in business left the faith. In any society, they will gain power because of this superiority.
And what do they use this power to do? Overwhelmingly, to disenfranchise the historical American nation. Jewish institutions, generously funded by these billionaires, distort the Republican party to support anti-White policies to the detriment of most of its voters. Most of its voters oppose mass non-White immigration. Yet, America is “a country of immigrants.” Most Republicans oppose affirmative action, yet what has the GOP done to address that issue? Nothing. Now, at Ivy League schools, White gentiles are more underrepresented than American Blacks. Jewish institutions, with their useful idiot evangelical allies, distorted our foreign policy to give billions in American money to Apartheid state Israel and the kleptocratic Egyptian regime, directly leading to the War on Terror and the ongoing killing of thousands of Americans. Neo-conservatism is a prototypical Jewish movement.
We can never let the Jewish question prevent us from seeing the reality of White gentile traitors. Nor can we blame all Jews, some are pro-White.
White…I think that you’re pulling everyone’s leg. Or, maybe you’re a Black man trying to make White People look bad. But, if you’re not, and you really are White and believe all of the crap that you’ve been dishing out on line about the Jews, the Latinos and Black people in this country, I sure as hell hope that you don’t live near me or one of my kids. I would have to stick myself with a pin to make sure I was really awake…and not dreaming that I somehow managed to get shanghaied back in time to an old timey Klan rally, with a huge flaming cross buried in someone’s cow pasture…and everyone all dressed up in their finest bed sheets….with the Grand Dragon spitting out his version of the Bible and how much better it would be, if everyone in this country were only Baptists…White…descended from people from Northern Europe and the British Isles….and Southern by choice, preferably with at least one ancestor who fought in the Great Rebellion against the Northern Tyrants. God Bless America! The “home of the Brave…Land of the Free” and an equal opportunity receptacle of Caucasian morons, who still think that the White Race will overcome and exterminate all of the Catholics, Jews, Muslims and “Coloreds” from within our borders.
The one thing that these kinds of racist idiots fail to consider, if their wildest dreams ever did come true, is who in the hell are they going to blame, when things go very wrong, real quick, and there is no one else except White Baptists descended from Northern and Far Western Europeans left living in this country? I’ll tell you what would happen then. All of those bigoted lunatics wouldn’t be able to find anyone to blame but themselves. And, there would be mass murder-suicides. And, eventually, no more white people left.
Fortunately, the majority of White people in the world have more common sense, logic, love and understanding in their hearts, that far outweighs the number of jackasses who still go though life with the Stars and Bars on their living room walls and trucks….and so much hate in their hearts, that whatever spark of decency they every had was snuffed out years ago.
OK Dracu. I can’t reply to you for some reason! Site is playing up.